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I have a website about my Dublin garden from where there is a link to my new garden here in Cobh.  I hope it is OK to direct  you there where all the information is already recorded. Thanks.   The  name of  the site is 'A small Irish Garden' at  www.esatclear.ie/~emal    . There is a link to my new garden here in Cobh.


Mouse /mice problem

29 January 2018 22:40:50

Loads of them around the house with droppings to prove it.

Maisie does a good job but they tend to gambol along raised surfaces so she cannot get at them.

So my problem is that I just hate the idea of killing them but know something has to be done. I tried the high pitched plug in unit , to no avail. I got capture them alive traps and they laughed at them.  The idea of emptying traps just gives me the horrors. I bought two traps today . And there is nobody nearby i can ask to do the deed.

I need persuasion that it is ok to kill them  I mean they are just doing their thing...oh it is most worrying.  Do traps kill them quickly? The only thing I kill are flies.

Help me

Jacinta D Jacinta D 30 January 2018 08:12:05

I don't like killing things myself. Mind you, I kill enough plants. lOL.

But everything in its place. I can tolerate mice outdoors. But when they invade my space, and work tops and food preparation areas, that's when I draw the line. The amount of mice you get indoors, and kill, is minimal to the numbers that run free outdoors. I don't have a problem killing what's indoors. Yea, not nice having to empty the bodies. But someone has to do it. Also, Elizabeth, when you're setting the traps be sure to wear gloves because they can get your scent and steer clear of them. The best of luck.

Gracedieu Lass Gracedieu Lass 30 January 2018 09:18:01

Sorry I can't help Elizabeth. I would have to move out, terrified of them inside or out. Did you consider a pest control company? It might be the easiest way.

DecfromTipp DecfromTipp 30 January 2018 09:27:45

Had to trap 4 here some months ago . Peanut butter or Nutella in trap works a treat . The live catch of work but I fear a Quick End is best . Don’t want any homing mice ! They love hot presses and under floorboards or a nice warm attic . These areas never fail produce results . Have you seen them ? People sometimes mistake bat droppings for  mice . Very similar only a little smaller and all insect based . 

PCON PCON 30 January 2018 14:22:54

Had about 10 of them a few years ago. I think I would prefer to dispose of a dead one than a live one. Just drop them in the brown bin. Ordinary cheap traps, baited with cheese eventually did the job for me.

Jacinta D Jacinta D 30 January 2018 15:16:08

I've caught all of my mice on raw Denny's sausagemeat. Please don't laugh. :)   I've tried all kinds of things, including cheese and peanut butter. Denny's works best for me. Little slivers of raw rashers works too, regardless of the brand.

Dick Dick 30 January 2018 16:36:11

Elizabeth, I have lost track as to haw many mice I have caught. I would say that the trap works quickly. i use cheese and it really attracts them. I don't require a brown bin as Peter mentioned. I simply throw them out into the garden and a prediter will take them away.

Scrubber Scrubber 30 January 2018 17:43:29

I have used a cage trap and left them off below in the Scrub. Tom Jones is a mouser and a ratter to boot. I have used the snap shut ones but hate as you do killing anything. I even put flies out the window! Tell Maisie about Tom Jones and she may rise to even greater heights!

Scrubber Scrubber 30 January 2018 17:43:31

I have used a cage trap and left them off below in the Scrub. Tom Jones is a mouser and a ratter to boot. I have used the snap shut ones but hate as you do killing anything. I even put flies out the window! Tell Maisie about Tom Jones and she may rise to even greater heights!

Jackie Jackie 31 January 2018 07:16:01

I would be gone!! sorry!!

Gracedieu Lass Gracedieu Lass 31 January 2018 13:59:58

Elizabeth, I hope you have had some success with the 'Mouse in the House' problem. 

Elizabeth7 Elizabeth7 31 January 2018 15:12:49

Mary i bought two traps yesterday. and am trying to work out how to set them.  I just hate the thought of killing them and empyting the traps but will have to face it. wish I was not such a softie.

Elizabeth7 Elizabeth7 02 February 2018 15:36:23

Have just set 4 traps don't know how i will brace myself to inspect them let alone remove bodies. Life is hard especially for mouses.

JoanG JoanG 02 February 2018 20:59:13

If you buy the cheapest traps (about €1 each), they work fine and you can dispose of deceased mouse and trap together in the brown bin without having to empty them.  Chocolate has worked as bait for us.  Set them as finely as you can without catching your fingers in the trap and place them in a tight space where the mouse is channelled to run directly onto the trap, not from the side.  Good luck and let us know how you get on! 

Very interesting talk

26 January 2018 00:53:55

Tonight at the Gardening club we had a most interesting talk from Troy Smith head gardener at Sissinghurst. He had worked there previously and then progressed to head gardener at Bodnant. However when the post came up at Sissinghurst he returned there. He explained the difficulty in realising his dreams of restoring the garden to the Vita and Harold days while making it capable of receiving  thousands of visitors each year. A huge challenge.

They seem to be concentrating on the area surrounding the main garden at present  especially around the entrance . 

He showed a slide of the Rose garden with many other perennials in flower and spoke of how he would prefer to restrict the area to just Roses even if it went through a barren period. Then I guess visitors would not be too keen on this.

Then there was a bed which had continuous flowering , tulips, alliums , eremerus etc and required only about an hours work during the Summer to keep in good order!!

So interesting. At the end I wondered if his longing to return to Sissinghurst  was all he had wished for or was it frustrating to be unable to fulfill his dreams. No doubt though he and his team are doing a great job.

I will be interested to hear what Mary and Paddy thought.

PeterW PeterW 26 January 2018 10:40:37

A very enjoyable talk Elizabeth. I agree with him on the impact just one group of flowers would make and have for those few weeks it would be very much enjoyed but as he says that would be it then for the rest of the season. They are certainly doing great work there and somewhere I would def like to see in the near future.

Gracedieu Lass Gracedieu Lass 26 January 2018 11:50:45

I enjoyed it very much, but don't envy his job of pleasing the public and trying to be true to the garden that Vita Sackville West created. I love the changes he has made at the enterance to the garden as this was very poor. I think he may have a problem of winning over some members of the public to change as Sissinghurst is a very iconic garden. It is a 'perfect' garden and has been gardened that way since the nineteen sixties, but fashion in garden is now more naturalistic, so may appeal to younger gardeners. It is important that more people are encouraged to visit gardens to provide the funds to keep them going. However, gardens are always changing and fashion comes and goes.  Best of luck to him as he make his mark on the garden at Sissinghurts and hopefully it won't be to long before I get to visit again.

TheH (Hazel) TheH (Hazel) 27 January 2018 00:12:07

Your Gardening Club seems to attract some very interesting visitors!

Elizabeth7 Elizabeth7 27 January 2018 00:39:59

Yes Hazel and our MaryJoe is involved with a lot with decisions.

Gracedieu Lass Gracedieu Lass 27 January 2018 09:50:49

Hazel, it is a great club for bringing speakers in from the UK. We have been members for years and travell down from Waterford most months. 

Fleurette Fleurette 27 January 2018 10:31:40

Interesting post Elizabeth.  I would side with Troy Smith and have that area with only roses.  The garden is sufficiently big to support this.  Also there is such a great number of repeat flowering varieties now, but I am not sure if that garden can be planted with modern varieties.  I visisted there on 1st May 2004.   

JoanG JoanG 27 January 2018 19:40:58

I went to the same talk at Foxrock Gardening Club on Tuesday and found it most interesting.  If I heard rightly, Troy Scott Smith has a seven year plan for revitalising the garden and they have made good progress so far.  Can't comment in detail as I haven't visited Sissinghurst (yet!) but would certainly support his vision. I wonder if he has had to do a lot of diplomatic negotiating to win over the National Trust and the garden staff to his ideas.  

Remind me please,

23 January 2018 16:11:41

A garden I saw recently maybe here.  The  Stipa tenuissima  were cut back and I

 think Lavender planted amongst them.  It seemed to be a mass planting but most of the Stipa being cut back was unusual  and maybe worth a try.

Myrtle Myrtle 23 January 2018 16:41:41

Was it one of the gardens on the Monty Dons program?

Gracedieu Lass Gracedieu Lass 23 January 2018 17:32:29

Yes, Elizabeth, I think Myrtle is right.

Elizabeth7 Elizabeth7 23 January 2018 17:36:41

Thank you both yes that is the one .

JoanG JoanG 24 January 2018 22:09:40

Yes and it looked lovely in the hot sunny paradise garden setting.  Whether the trimmed stipa would still stand up in our wet and windy climate I'm not sure. 

Garden.ie Club

25 November 2017 01:25:09

I wrote a reply to Hazels post about ‘Checking’ see down the page. It was medium length and a bit strong but though posted vanished into the ether.

So here is the gist of what I said .

There seems no will to keep the site going, promises, promises is what we get.

If I had ‘founded ‘ Garden.ie Club and seen it  grow and develop in the early years I would be immensely proud.  Proud that I had started something unique on the Internet, a place that started friendships, where folk  travelled from all over the country to meet in mid Winter, visited one another’s gardens and exchanged plants. Point me to another garden site that has achieved this.

And yet it is being left to languish, I just don’t understand the lack of interest from the owners.

There is a wealth of knowledge  in the Archives which could be , by those who know how, made accessible  on perhaps another section of the general site.

I find it so sad that I no longer bother to check in to ‘ie’ as my first call in the morning as there is probably no new post.

Sadly I fear it will not change sufficiently to attract back former members and encourage new ones.

Please prove me wrong.

PeterW PeterW 25 November 2017 09:51:20

I agree with you Elizabeth, I think they have given up on something great and don't seem to bothered to push on with the site. I like used to check this site any spare time in the day that I got, now I could go days without looking here. I hope your proven wrong too...

Gracedieu Lass Gracedieu Lass 25 November 2017 13:18:28

Totally agree with your sentiments, Elizabeth. I still think that in the New Year the site will be re-launched and hopefully people will return to it. I am not a fan of FB and I like reading members journals, it is like reading their garden diaries and also keeping a diary of your own.

TheH (Hazel) TheH (Hazel) 26 November 2017 18:53:09

Thanks Elizabeth. I think the problem for the techinical team who look after the site is that all their efforts are directed to developing a new imroved site - which is a long process when you have a small team. If they take time to resolve issues on the current site that just delays the progress of the new - it is a dilemma that many IT teams struggle with.

The development of a new site with the complexities that modern sites require is a big task and I am not surprised that they have been working on it for nearly a year. This is not unusual. I'm just hoping that the new site will meet our requirements as well as this one did from the start.

Mary - you are so right about the journals! I'm hoping that when the new site is in place that it will still be possible to access the journals here.

DecfromTipp DecfromTipp 27 November 2017 20:57:15

There are lots of other sites and pages doing garden stuff now . Facebook has plant id , Ireland’s Flora and Fauna , plant swop , plant buy n sell etc. I think these are taking from .ie too ? 

fraoch fraoch 28 November 2017 22:09:05

I agree with several comments, I don't check it so regularly now either. I hope Hazel is right!

CraigK CraigK 29 November 2017 09:03:14

Thanks for the comments all, we're working our hardest on getting the new site ready. Hazel is correct, our priority is the new site, but we are still monitoring here as well. The new site is coming along very nicely at the moment. Hope to have news on it very soon. Email me directly on craig@garden.ie if there's anything specific we can help with. 

TerriShoos TerriShoos 30 November 2017 10:02:15

I agree with all the cvomments, it would be terribly sad if the site folded - it has been such a great forum for us. It's turned us from casual, fairly uninformed gardeners, to knowledgeable, creative, passionate gardeners. When we had our website designed it only took a few weeks, but that's a pretty simple project compared to something like garden.ie, so I take Hazel's comments on board - she knows a lot more about computers than I do. But I do think the issue with unauthorised sites spamming us is an urgent one, we will all drop out fast if our personal info is hijacked by these people. 

Boots, as on feet!!

14 November 2017 16:25:14

I know it may seem I am doing promotions for the large super stores but perish the thought, just thinking of some things that may be of interest as my gardening is restricted to cutiing down masses of crocosmia; not very exciting.

So Boots! I have sad feet. They get very cold and the feeling goes from them..sob sob. Well today in Lidl I spotted some boots. Waterproof , slip proof , 'furry '  lining and special thermo something insoles. Price €19.99.  They are ankle height. As I was on my way to walk Meg I put them on in the car park, a bit of a struggle should probably have got a size larger to account for furriness and socks but hoped they would stretch a bit and they did.  Fantastic ..and been in the garden and the feet are thrilled with themselves so cosy and warm will keep them on for the night. In fact I may never take them off!! So if you suffer from freezing feet get a pair, go on , go on  ,go on before they are all gone.  Actually think I will get another pair to keep in reserve.

TheH (Hazel) TheH (Hazel) 14 November 2017 16:54:55

Must check if they have them in my local Lidl! I got the last pair a few years ago but they are a size too big so I only wear them when I'm hosing down the deck -Oh! I won't have to do that any more, will I LOL

Jacinta D Jacinta D 14 November 2017 19:27:51

I must check that too. My feet are getting colder and colder every year. Good idea getting a spare pair too.

Jackie Jackie 14 November 2017 19:42:34

Definitely will pop in to Lidl tomorrow as these would be terrific for the garden. I have Reynauds disease in my hands, they blood drains from them in the cold, and they get so sore so I have to put on gloves all the time. So I can only imagine what your feet must be like Elizabeth!

Gracedieu Lass Gracedieu Lass 14 November 2017 20:09:27

Elizabeth, a good warm pair of boots is a must if you are in the garden in the winter as the cold from the ground can freeze you. 

JoanG JoanG 14 November 2017 22:53:31

Great result Elizabeth, well wear!  I was in my 2 local Lidl's this morning (yes, we have two within five minutes drive of each other!) trying to find their advertised ladies ski jackets in my size to wear for gardening, but they were all too big.  Didn't notice the boots I'm afraid.  I wear an old but perfectly sturdy pair of calf-high wellies for winter gardening, with two pairs of thermal socks on the really cold days, and they do me grand. 

Dick Dick 19 November 2017 19:51:19

Elizabeth, it looks as if you won't need these boots over the next few days as the temperature in your area will soar to 15 degrees.

Scrubber Scrubber 19 November 2017 23:18:48

Many thanks! I do have a pair of posh wellikens that I was given at christmas and on learning the price I was afraid to wear them lest a thorn pierce their precious sides. I have ventured out since but the point is that they have posh wellie socks to go with them so my tootsies should be warm as a result. yet those Liddlers are enticing as I like short boots or as Joan says -calf high-lovely description except i keep thinking of a little suckey calf!


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