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Slowly getting there

10 August 2015 16:33:16

Thank you for all your recent advice on planting shrubs, got started Saturday, made good progress, kind of know now what I need to do. I propagated my first plant, a geranium, then I went a bit mad & took a piece off each plant in sight. Don’t know if I was actually taking the right part but I am sure I will find out soon. 

Jacinta D Jacinta D 10 August 2015 16:47:14

Well done on making a start. That's often the hardest step. 

JoanG JoanG 10 August 2015 21:06:41

Always worth giving propagating a try, if you succeed it could become addictive!  Best of luck with your cuttings.

Michele Maria Michele Maria 10 August 2015 21:56:55

Your seating area is lovely. I usually cover cuttings with a plastic bag and take off most of the leaves. It seems to stop them drooping before they can put down roots. Good luck with yours Eimeek.

Spacing question

04 August 2015 21:00:57

Hi, I have a number of shrubs to plant against a wall, most grow to 2 or 3 meters. 

Could anyone advise me how far out from the wall I would come to dig plant them

I have only recently started gardening and seem to be making every mistake going. 

Any advice would be appreciated :-))


PeterW PeterW 04 August 2015 21:15:32

Your not making mistakes but learning like the rest of us. If it were me I wouldn't plant all these together unless you want a mixed hedge but plant seperately in areas on their own. They get big if you let them but with lots of shrubs they can be trimmed back. I always google plants if I get them and click on images and you will get plenty of photos on what they might look like in a few years and how well they work with other plants then.

Eimeek.Tramore Eimeek.Tramore 04 August 2015 21:28:00

what would you plant in between to fill in the gaps or would they eventually come together.  what I aim to do is completely block a side wall that gives passer by's a full view of my house and garden. 

Eimeek.Tramore Eimeek.Tramore 04 August 2015 21:37:20

Just had a peep at your garden peter it's beautiful I always wondered would people maintain the show gardens after the show. you obviously have and it looks great. 

PeterW PeterW 04 August 2015 21:43:42

ha thanks, lucky enough to love gardening before it was done so easy job to work in it. Changing the planting to a more tropical look. If it's a hedge you are trying to do to block passers by just plant a foot or two apart and they will grow into each other eventually and you can trim into a hedge.

Eimeek.Tramore Eimeek.Tramore 04 August 2015 22:00:08

on the last super garden they done up a young couples garden as well, they wanted a party garden, I'd say it's a jungle now I dont think they had any interest in gardening. so if something says it grows to 2 or 3 meters would u still leave just a foot or two inbetween? 

Eimeek.Tramore Eimeek.Tramore 04 August 2015 22:00:08

on the last super garden they done up a young couples garden as well, they wanted a party garden, I'd say it's a jungle now I dont think they had any interest in gardening. so if something says it grows to 2 or 3 meters would u still leave just a foot or two inbetween? 

PeterW PeterW 04 August 2015 22:35:43

Yes I would they will grow into each other and you will trim the rest if it's a hedge you want. Ya suppose some people like the idea of getting the garden done up but not the idea of maintaning it

TheH (Hazel) TheH (Hazel) 08 August 2015 00:45:32

The main thing is not to plant too close to the wall as the ground tends to be very dry right next to the wall and the shrubs wound; like that.  Between  a foot (30cm) to 18 inches (50cm) is probably about right. There is a difference in planting individual shrubs and planting a hedge - it sounds like you want a hedge .... that would be about 50 cm between each plant as a rule of thumb. If you want the plants to stay individual then as Peter suggested, check out the spread of each on Google.

Trip to Johnstown

04 August 2015 15:17:52

I spent the day Saturday in Johnstown garden centre, first time there, its fantastic.
I am embarrassed to say I spent 5 hours there, but that includes time in the restaurant.
I was looking for plants to place at the side of my house for privacy but got everything but them!!!
The few I got were the ones that were suggested to me here, like escallonia, red robin, choisya & aucuba du japon.  
I also got a magnolia fairy cream, it is evergreen & highly fragrant so looking forward to seeing that grow.
Everything is quiet expensive in JOhnstown, I was wondering if I was crazy to spend €45 on one thing!!
I didnt get a chance to plant everything, they are all still sitting outside waiting for me.
I am after realising I have planted all my existing shrubs too close together, like ones that grow to 2meters are only a foot apart, I have alot to learn!!! 


Elizabeth7 Elizabeth7 04 August 2015 17:46:59

Well that was a mighty visit!!  Well done on getting all those great plants.  I think we have all made the mistake of planting too close together.

DeclanTipp DeclanTipp 04 August 2015 20:57:58

The day you stop learning is the day you stop gardening . I find Johnstown expensive too but that's because it's close to City ... Many of the plants you buy may be expensive butbcan be propagated too so happy days growing new plants from them. This is one of my favourite gardening tricks... Divide and multiply etc etc 

Eimeek.Tramore Eimeek.Tramore 04 August 2015 21:08:55

That's another thing I have to learn propagating. When we were growing up my mother was known for her "taking slips" off everything, I'm sure I will follow suit , lol. 

fran m fran m 06 August 2015 08:02:48

Seeing that your in Tramore, I would have concerns about wind/salt damage from the sea. That would need to be planted in a sheltered site from the winds or it willl never do well for you.

TheH (Hazel) TheH (Hazel) 08 August 2015 00:38:43

Sounds like a great haul from Johnstown! A bit pricey but good quality plants.

Overgrown problem

30 July 2015 21:44:36

3 months ago we built this shrubbery and everything in it was planted tidy. Now 2 planTS in it are serious after taken over and covering the flowers beside it. should I just cut back the overgrown ones even though they are in full flower? How so i go about fixing this mess. 

Gracedieu Lass Gracedieu Lass 30 July 2015 21:54:12

Prune any shrubs that flower before June after they flower. Shrubs that flower form July onwards should be pruned  the following Spring. Don't think you will have any problems for a few years yet. 

Rachel Rachel 30 July 2015 22:00:38

Yes, if flowers/shrubs are falling over other things and blocking light you must remove the offending stems/branches. Plants can't do without light but they will not balk at loosing a flowering stem. In autumn you can dig up and replant but for now the emphasis is on keeping the overshadowed plants alive.

fran m fran m 30 July 2015 22:35:25

Agree with above comments.

Fleurette Fleurette 30 July 2015 23:12:03

I would say that in a new garden with new beds, the sooner you achieve some impact with the planting, the better.  If a plant wants to grow big, it will grow big,  Yes, you can snip here and there for the time being, but my plan would be to just keep that luscious growth from totally smothering what is underneath and at the end of August, move the smaller ones to new homes. Think forward to next year.

Eimeek.Tramore Eimeek.Tramore 30 July 2015 23:13:49

Thank you all so much for your replies, I will have to remove the branches so. I was shocked at how big they grew in such a short space of time.  I have so much to learn :-)

Fleurette Fleurette 30 July 2015 23:14:51

By the way, what is the large plant?

Eimeek.Tramore Eimeek.Tramore 30 July 2015 23:22:37

Large plant is a Malva sylvestris marina. It is totally lopsided and can't seem to support itself, it's in flower since June, beautiful blue flowers but it's not floating my boat at the moment. if I could manage to support it somehow and remove the hidden plants underneath it would be a lovely display then. 

Fleurette Fleurette 30 July 2015 23:43:02

Malva, as far as I know can take a lot of cutting back, and they do fall about.  So, if its going to be a problem, remove it early Sept to a position where it can lol around.  (see how fast I can change my mind? Lol )

Any suggestions

29 July 2015 17:13:42

I have a long boundary wall at the side of my house. If anyone is walking past they have a full view of my garden & house. I need to cover this in & make it private. Would anyone have any suggestions. Building up the wall is not an option as the wall isn't actually owned by me. I already have planted a heap of grisilini hedging in another area of my garden so I have enough of that. What I am looking for ideally is some beautiuful unusual shrubs that will grow high. I love anything that is fragrant & flowers. Would anyone know if this is achievable for what I want? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. 

Jacky Quirke Jacky Quirke 29 July 2015 18:47:23

Red Robin is quite nice, giving you colour all the year round,  sorry im not much help to you, i hope you get good replies, enjoy your evening

fran m fran m 29 July 2015 20:02:20

Hi and welcome to the site, enjoy.

The list would be endless, but some that come to mind are, Ceanothus, Berberis, Buddleia, Escallonia,Fuchsia, Hydrangea, Forsythia.

Look at what is growing well in the gardens around you and a visit to local garden centres will be time well spent.

Bamboos can create great screens also.

JoanG JoanG 29 July 2015 23:04:48

Lots of good shrubs to choose from as others have suggested. A mix of deciduous and evergreen would be good: Philadelphus is fragrant as are some large shrub roses, both deciduous. Ceanothus is a fab evergreen with blue flowers and photIndia also good all year.  Choisya also a fragrant evergreen though rounded rather than tall. Hope these suggestions help and welcome to the site.

Gracedieu Lass Gracedieu Lass 29 July 2015 23:43:42

Hi welcome to the site. All very good suggestions of shrubs that will survive the salty winds that blow in off the sea. Don't over plant your shrubs, give them room to grow and develop.

Eimeek.Tramore Eimeek.Tramore 30 July 2015 15:35:55

Hi Jacky,Fran, Joan & Gracedieu lass,

Thank you for all your suggestions, I love reading them all.

I had to google all the ones ye suggested, I am not up on the names yet J

Fran of the ones you listed I love the Escallonia I see that in other peoples gardens & it would work well where I want it.

I have the rest of them in my garden but I know I have planted them too close together, it’s hard to envisage some of them growing over 2 meters!!!

I am going to Johnstown Garden Centre Saturday to buy a “Magnolia Fairy Cream” shrub.

Have any of ye came across this one?  It is evergreen & says it is very fragrant. 

TheH (Hazel) TheH (Hazel) 07 August 2015 19:11:47

You could also try the native Viburnum Opulus - Guelder Rose. It grows to easily 2 meters and has pretty flowers followed by lovely red berries - and it is native so good for wild-life!

Eimeek.Tramore Eimeek.Tramore 07 August 2015 21:24:36

Hi Hazel, thanks for your suggestion, it sounds like exactly the type of shrub I want, flowering and attracts wildllife. I will look it up on google now I hope it's evergreen.  I have about 15 shrubs I bought waiting to be planted, tomorrow is a good day so hopefully I will get it done.  thanks again & hope u get a bit of sunshine tomorrow  

TheH (Hazel) TheH (Hazel) 07 August 2015 23:49:12

It's not evergreen but it has beautiful autumn colour and comes back into leaf quite early.


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