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suggestions please

27 September 2011 18:17:51
the dreaded leylandii hedge died in the bad winter last year. This time we would like to plant a hedge that grows to about 6 or 7 foot and then stops hence not needing to be pruned. Is it possible to find such a hedge? or what should we plant in place of the leylandii that will not need to be trimmed?? suggestions gratefully accepted
Rachel Rachel 27 September 2011 19:19:31

I don't think there is such a thing as a hedge that doesn't need trimming. You could try a mixture of garden shrubs.

kitkat kitkat 27 September 2011 19:37:44

yeah I know its the ideal isnt it. Any suggesions of what shrubs


fraoch fraoch 27 September 2011 21:07:29

What about flowering currant? It seems to stop at about that hight.And Viburnum bodnantense "Dawn" would only need to be pruned a bit to keep it in check. Of course neither of them is as dense as Leylandii so might not suit you.

NoelleP NoelleP 27 September 2011 22:24:22

Kitkat, when we bought our site, we were restricted by planning on the height of plants/trees on the boundry between our site and next door - so leylandi and most of the high conifers were automatically out of bounds.  So we planted a mixed hedge.  We have hydranga, forsythia, hypericum, holly, photinia, dogwood, fuchia and a couple of other things.  It provides us an everchanging hedge - different things are in flower or looking at their best at different times of year.

Most of these plants wont exceed 2 meters in height or can be kept to a relatively modest height with light pruning. 

Moya Moya 27 September 2011 22:44:09

That sounds lovely Noelle.

andyf7 andyf7 27 September 2011 23:19:36

if its a boundry line hedge your looking for. i would plant holly, slow growing and light trim once a year. the advantage is, it makes a good security barrier. for people and livestock. its evergreen and depending on type, winter berries.

ladygardener ladygardener 28 September 2011 07:41:52

Sorry about your hedge it's a bummer starting again.  With the bad winters coupled with the plant viruses it's hard to be able to depend on one species any more therefore a mixed hedge is the one way to guard against losing the whole thing again.  Laurel is the only vigorous hedging plant commonly used that hasn't been hit at all, but as you know does need frequent trimming.   If you were set on an evergreen single species hedge Viburnum Tinus takes trimming very well but won't grow too high and I havn't heard of it succumbing to cold or viruses -yet

ladygardener ladygardener 28 September 2011 08:07:31

Sorry Kit Kat just read that both Moya and Keego lost Viburnum Tinus in the cold and I had only been joking about the yet!

AmandaL AmandaL 28 September 2011 16:51:31

Future Forests in Bantry have some great suggestions for mixed hedging which might be worth checking out.  The web address is www.futureforests.net.  Good luck :)

kitkat kitkat 28 September 2011 19:20:35

Thank you all so much for all the suggestions and very useful website.....now just have to decide and persuade husband. Am thinking either 4 seasons hedge or flowering hedge. my husband wants beech but i think our ground is tooo wet and it would be too much maintenance for him.


Moya Moya 28 September 2011 21:59:29

Yes, Ladygardener. I wouldn't have believed it if it hadn't happened to me as I thought V. tinus was one of the toughest plants you could get!!

Have just bought another one so hoping it won't be so cold this year.

Moya Moya 28 September 2011 22:26:26

Noelle, we have beech on one side. I would recommend it - needs cutting once a year and holds leaves, albeit rusty coloured, over the winter. Birds seem to love it too and it grows as big as you let it. It's lovely to see the fresh green leaves coming in in June.

Alder is an option for wet ground - grows very fast and can be kept clipped.

JanetS JanetS 29 September 2011 11:21:58

Kitkat, you have had some really good responses to your query, but before you make a final decision you should look out for the October/November issue of The Irish Garden magazine which will be in the shops this weekend. There is a special feature on replacing hedges that were killed by last winter's severe weather. It is a comprehensive article, giving the various merits and disadvantages of each plant, so it will be a great help to you.


17 April 2011 18:54:55

whats the best weedkiller for shrub beds.....communion in 3 weeks and want the place looking good


Moya Moya 17 April 2011 22:44:30

Spot treating with roundup or Irish organic weedkiller or using a flamegun - depends on the space you have to work in and how likely you are to scorch the shrubs.

TheH (Hazel) TheH (Hazel) 19 April 2011 00:11:43

Roundup will probably be still looking pretty yellow in 3 weeks so you might need to hoe before the big day!

kitkat kitkat 19 April 2011 18:45:03

good idea I ll hoe the dead weeds thanks


interesting article found on organic weed control

29 March 2011 09:29:37

The 7 Deadly Homemade Weed Killers

Published by Hanna | Filed Under: How To, Weeds
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“And the weeds of the garden shall be visited upon the gardener.”

I can certainly think of the 7+ weedy sins of the garden but knowing how to cleanse my garden of these weeds is even better. Especially if it can be done cheaply and with household items. Murdering weeds is a fun past time.

So, for your reading enjoyment, here are The 7 Deadly Homemade Weed Killers, guaranteed to help you eradicate the weeds you find in your garden.

  1. Boiling Water – Yep, that’s right. Plain old H2O can be used as an extremely effective weed killer. As a matter of fact, boiling water is more effective than many of your store bought weed killers in wiping out unwanted vegetation. Easy-peasy to do. Put a kettle of tap water on the stove and heat till boiling, then pour on the weeds you wish to kill.You are effectively cooking the plant in the ground. Boiling water is a great way to clear out vegetation on a wholesale basis, like driveways and sidewalks. But be warned, boiling water is not selective. It will cook and instantly kill any plant that it comes in contact with and this includes underground roots of nearby plants.
  2. Bleach – Not only is bleach a spot remover, it is a weed remover as well. Place some bleach in a spray bottle and spray on the weed you wish to remove. The bleach chemicals will evaporate or dissipate in about two days (or less but better safe than sorry), making the area safe for planting. Again, bleach will kill anything but if you do get some on a plant you want to keep, just wash the plant off.
  3. Vinegar – Vinegar is a great organic homemade weed killer. Either white or cider vinegar will work. The acetic acid in the vinegar works to kill the leaves on the plant but not the root. Vinegar will kill back (kill the leaves but not the root) any plant but works best on young plants because they do not have enough energy stored in the roots to regrow their leaves. If vinegar is applied to more established weeds enough times, the plant will eventually deplete its stored energy reserves and die.
  4. Salt – It was once a known war tactic to salt the fields of enemies. Salting the earth was also used as punishment for severe crimes in several countries throughout history. The reason is because salt will kill plants and will make the ground unsuitable for future plant growth. On a small scale, you can drop a small pinch of table salt at the base of the undesirable plants. It will kill the plant but will dilute down to harmless in the next few rainfalls. On a larger scale, you can cover your gravel driveway or your ex’s yard with a good amount of salt and nothing will grow there for months. (FYI, it is illegal to salt another person’s property. It’s called vandalism.)
  5. Rubbing AlcoholRubbing alcohol is used around the house because it draws water out and helps to evaporate it quickly. Guess what? If you put it on a plant, it will do the same thing. You will be basically sucking the life blood out of the weed. Makes you want to run right out and try it, huh? But again, rubbing alcohol is non-selective. It will kill any vegetation it comes contact with.
  6. Corn Meal – Corn meal doesn’t really kill weeds, it just stops the weed seeds from ever developing. Corn Gluten is a pre-emergent, which is a fancy way of saying that is it is a seed birth-control. Corn meal scattered around an area will keep any seed in that area from growing into a plant. This means a weed seed or a desirable seed. This method is a good option for areas that you plan on planting grown plants in.
  7. Newspaper – If murdering your weeds with chemicals is not your style, you can always smother them. Laying down a layer of newspaper at least 4 sheets thick (the more the better) will go a long way towards killing the weeds underneath. The weeds that are already there will die from lack of sun and the weed seeds will not be able to sprout because they are not getting any sun to start with.

As an added bonus, many of these 7 homemade weed killers can be combined to produce super results. For example, the boiling water can be mixed with the salt or the vinegar (or both) for a super weed killer. Use common sense when combining chemicals and make sure that there are no adverse reactions.

You can also add a few drops of liquid dish soap to the liquid homemade weed killers for added effectiveness. The soap is not harmful to the weeds but the soap acts as a sort of bonding agent and will help the weed killers to stick to the weed more effectively.

Since most of these homemade weed killers are all-or-nothing weed killers, you may want to use a weed killer shield with them to prevent sprays and splashes on desirable plants.

So, go forth and cleanse thy garden of its weedy sins.

ladygardener ladygardener 29 March 2011 09:58:51

Thanks Kitkat I had come across this before but forgot where I saw it, I'll be able to have a thorough read now.  The soda bottle shield is a good idea too.

Amyg Amyg 29 March 2011 10:41:32

Brilliant! can't wait to go on a weed killing spree now without having to rob the bank first! Thanks Kitkat for this!

PCON PCON 29 March 2011 10:49:25

A kettle of boiling water won't go very far on the driveway. It's a bit dangerous in large quantities. How about bleach. Should it be diluted? Will it kill moss between the cobblelocks? There is always the gas powered flame device. Not very effective on the same moss. Anyway, thanks for all the good ideas. I'll copy them into my usefuk documents.

Periwinkle Periwinkle 29 March 2011 10:49:50

Some tips there that I might try!

Cloncaw Cloncaw 29 March 2011 11:39:34

Interesting but is bleach organic?

gerry 050920101 gerry 050920101 29 March 2011 11:59:38

 that was good wil try them all

footprints in the snow this morning

04 December 2010 13:15:05
We don't have a dog but we do have hens!
Jacinta D Jacinta D 04 December 2010 13:52:30

Oops! I feel Foxy Loxy is on the prowl!

gerry 050920101 gerry 050920101 04 December 2010 15:32:38

they have to eat also

Dick Dick 04 December 2010 17:04:13

Good news that you have hens so the fox has done no harm to them.

Gracedieu Lass Gracedieu Lass 04 December 2010 17:12:43

The fields around us were planted with wheat and oats this summer and there is now a bumper number of rats about. When I put down rat traps I have to tie them to something as the fox comes and takes the dead rats away with the trap. 

Lots of fox activity here; we can watch them from the house in the evenings. Hens have been safe so far.


kitkat kitkat 04 December 2010 17:45:07

we were in Castlebar last weekend and seen a fox just wandering along the road beside a housing estate ....in the town. They must be really hungry with the snow.


Cloncaw Cloncaw 04 December 2010 21:29:33

Hope your hens stay safe.

brigette brigette 23 December 2010 11:53:05

Best wishes for a happy Christmas.

gerry 050920101 gerry 050920101 29 March 2011 11:58:07

that is very good will try them all


16 October 2010 23:37:05
I love the old fashioned hydrangea flowers.  I have some small hydrangea plants planted in my garden about 3 years ago. But every year I just get leaves with no flowers. Now they are still very small plants. I wonder are they too small for flowers yet or should I be doing something different to encourage flowers next year.
INGRID15 INGRID15 17 October 2010 08:39:08

Hello Kitkat.. I have one Hydrangea 4years old and two have 3years old ..they didnt flower only second year ..this year were full of flowers ..you could see in my albums august or july .. Very easy to grow .. you have to plant in good prepared soil Farmyard manure at the very bottom .a little bit chicken pellets and fish,bones &blood ..mix into soil ..  Thats is it  ...in spring put some fertilizer .. That what i did my is huge Hydrangeas .a few days ago one 4 years old i pruned and going to do early next year..


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