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Dahlias, Summer 2017.

05 October 2017 09:21:41

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I was at my local gardening club last evening and was speaking to one of the members, who is a keen dahlia grower. He grows a large amount of dahlias as his wife is a flower arranger and uses a lot of homegrown flowers in her arrangements. He was telling me that it was a disasterous year for him with hardly any flowers and foliage like net curtains. He would grow his dahlias in rows, like veg and not in his garden among other plants, so would be able to see which ones were not doing good and be more critical of their performance. For me this year has been a great year for dahlias, as they seem to enjoy the moist warm weather we had and are still going strong apart from the foliage being a little tatty. They had a long season of flower as well, flowering from late May and were huge plants when I planted them out. My favourite dahlia this year was Dahlia ' Admiral Rawlings' , the colour of the flower is sumptuous. Other favourites are Dahlia 'Bloodstone', Dahlia 'Gloire de Noordvgijik', Dahlia 'David Howard'and Dahlia 'Chat Noir'. Did any other members find this a good year for dahlias?


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JoanG JoanG 05 October 2017 20:33:41

Personally I prefer the single dahlias but don't have any right now. Yours look fabulous Mary, especially Admiral Rawlings which I have admired in Carmel Duignam's garden. 

DecfromTipp DecfromTipp 05 October 2017 22:00:38

Mary , I found it a very good year for Dahlias . Some here are still showing good form . And Iam no expert ! I do love my Dahlias though ..

Fleurette Fleurette 05 October 2017 22:23:54

Your 1st picture, Mary, shows a lovely big colour clump of dahlias.  

I don’t grow many dahlias, as it is too much work to lift them.  However, I have had The Bishop of Llandaff for years and leave it in the ground.  This year it is still in bud and I am still waiting for the 1st flower.  Is it worth it?  Obviously “No”.  The  growing season at 55° N. Is 3weeks shorter than in Co Cork. Or is it 3 weeks at either end of the season?  I cannot remember.  

Four years ago, Conrad gave me a “dahlia coccinea var. palmeri.“ It is a sort of climbing dahlia with a bright red single (simple) flower.  It flowers very late in the season and  Presently has a very large fat bud.  Still waiting!  It flowered earlier in previous years.  

Gracedieu Lass Gracedieu Lass 05 October 2017 22:45:27

Joan, I love the honka types, but bought one and was disappointed, very small plant. 

Declan, I love them with their over the top flowers.

Margot, the one you got from Conrad sounds very interesting. 

TheH (Hazel) TheH (Hazel) 05 October 2017 23:40:32

My Dahlia story this year is my 'Catherine Deneuve' which I took a chance and left it in the ground last winter. It didn't reappear until late July and came into bud at the end of August but is looking truly splendid now! I hope the forecast grass-frost wound put paid to her!

Jackie Jackie 06 October 2017 08:00:38

Mary I found the Dahlias this year were absolutely fantastic too. I've had loads of blooms and still going strong. Like you one or two looking a bit tatty but overall a great display. I too love D. Glorie van Noordwijks  with its masses of orange blooms. I bought Pooh at Bloom aand it's done well. I a,so got som 'dinner plate' size Dahlia in Lidl and they were just stunning. I have D bishop of Llandaff and it's the only one I didn't lift and that's been flowering non stop too, if a little later. A few I have in containers but the ones I have in the ground are staying this year. I'm going to see how they fare out!! 

Jacinta D Jacinta D 06 October 2017 08:42:03

Fantastic year for Dahlias here too. I love them all, but like Joan, I think I prefer the singles. My only single is about to flower any day now. I originally grew it from seed sent to me by Deborah about 5 years ago or more. 

I'd like to get my hands on D. 'Pooh'. I've seen it in Peter Wiseman's journals a lot.

Gracedieu Lass Gracedieu Lass 06 October 2017 09:13:18

Hazel, your Dahlia ' Catherine Deneuve' is gorgeous, I remember you uploading a photo a few weeks ago.

Jackie, I am half  thinking of letting mine stay out this year but, after after the first bad winter a few years ago, I lost all of mine, so not sure what I will do.

Jacinta, I got Dahlia 'Pooh' from Peter last spring.

TheH (Hazel) TheH (Hazel) 06 October 2017 12:24:24

Mary - I haven't lited my dahlias for the past two years and they have been fine. I put about a bucket of compost on top of them when the leaves have gone black - just trim off the foliage so they won't rot and then a good dollop of compoats keeps them snug over the winter. 'Catherine deneuve' missed out on the mulch for some reason and was much later to appear.

Gracedieu Lass Gracedieu Lass 06 October 2017 13:58:06

Hazel, my problem is that the soil gets very wet in winter. If I had the money I would put in lots of grit into the soil where I plant them and possible grow daffodils amoung them to flower earlier in the year. I do leave out cannas and gingers and just mulch. They survived the bad winters and were only slightly set back. I do leave out the odd dahlia and have found that they will flower a little later.

Scrubber Scrubber 13 October 2017 18:10:23

Scrubber's dahlias withthe exception of a very robust red and white one were disastrous. This was due to the fact that Scrubber didnt plant any apart from the very robust one which was left in situ and laughed at all the winter threw at it!

Gracedieu Lass Gracedieu Lass 13 October 2017 19:52:02

Peter, I think that was the dahlia I gave you, Dahlia 'War of the Roses' a very, very hardy dahlia. If you ever lift it there will be loads of tubers. 

Dick Dick 29 October 2017 14:30:42

Mary, I'm sure it was a great year for dahlias. For years I had a very large number of them. There was a time when we had some very mild winters and I tended to leave the tubers in the ground.  In December  2010 you remember we had snow for the greater part of a month and the Dahlias we nearly all destroyed. There have been times when I referred to them jokingly as Dalys and I offered some to a niece of mine, Mary who married a man called Daly. I asked her if she would like some Dalys and she told me that she had enough Dalys. Actually she has little or no interest in gardenig

Gracedieu Lass Gracedieu Lass 29 October 2017 17:37:14

Advice, I too lost most of my dahlias during the two winters and many other nice plants that had survived milder winters without any problem. I gave up growing anything that was a little tender from then on, but this year I have started to take an interest in the not so hardy plants again. Will I ever learn.

Jackie Jackie 29 October 2017 18:20:19

Its a learning process isnt it Mary..........I have some in containers and I  will leave them inside, but not going to move the ones in the ground. I will cut them back when they finish flowering and mulch well and PRAY!! lol


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